Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Gregorie Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: What's the best non-JVM native language to look at? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <428f8206-d4f7-4fe6-b93c-8f881b498be6@googlegroups.com> <99qdnVXamdWBRErPnZ2dnUVZ8mOdnZ2d@bt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e5160e2be48f1ea550cf61512446f525"; logging-data="28348"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/FRMHHk5rvVpZti3uksQiiSY0rZ0qeb+k=" User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pmyifwmCPFfMo+S5hEor52VouMo= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:27337 On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:08:26 +0000, lipska the kat wrote: > According to lots of references on the intertubes the first C++ compiler > was written in something called 'C with classes' which was written in > ... C > Way back when C++ was the new kid on the block I remember reading that the first C++ compilker was actually a standard C compiler with the Cfront preprocessor substituted for the usual cpre preprocessor. ==== Personally I still can't be arsed to spend the time needed to learn C++. I looked at it some time ago and found it offensive for both its complexity and the obscene amount of code generated. In any case, far too much of the so-called "C++" I've looked at has been nothing more than ANSI C with comments delimited by "//": and not class or object in sight. If a programming task is essentially file manipulation I'll use awk. If the job is moderately complex and can be written in ANSI C I'll use that. If an OO approach is called for I'll use Java and, if some fiddling is required that Java can't do, I'll use a combination of C and Java with sockets for inter-language data transfer. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |