Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jerry Stuckle Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.php Subject: Re: ORMs comparisons/complaints. Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:11:01 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <%JGtu.29103$Wm1.26832@fx17.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="5bbc3b11b1b4710f646addce76a72d4a"; logging-data="9284"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18uZa9WNdmwMd2VnX7bVc+6LMwCEg1pGF4=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:cjuVZ6UwC/LgmEZZm6WVddbBvR4= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:27150 comp.lang.php:12462 On 12/31/2013 6:30 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 31/12/13 02:09, Arved Sandstrom wrote: >> On 12/30/2013 06:13 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 30/12/13 21:36, Arved Sandstrom wrote: >>>> Data is complex, relational data is obviously just as complex, and any >>>> method of querying or manipulating real relational data is often hard. >>>> And considering major ORMs (not just Java), and the amount of educated >>>> effort that has gone into them, there are not many people who are >>>> well-advised to routinely use SQL directly if they have other >>>> options...not unless they are RDBMS specialists, and that's what >>>> they do >>>> for a living. Are you one? I'm not. >>> >>> Ah. So mining is complex and labour intesive, so lets not learn how to >>> use an excavator, but instead develop tools to allow us to organise huge >>> gangs of navvies with picks and shovels, because that's easier for us >>> lazy shits than mastering the controls on a dump truck or draglinme >>> excavator. >>> >>> If you cant manage relational databases, you shouldn't be messing with >>> big data. >>> >>> >> Identify yourself by your real name, doorknob. Maybe then you can put up >> or shut up. >> >> Learn spelling and grammar too - those skills help when you converse >> with adults. >> > So no counter argument, just an ad hominem attack. > > You are Jerry Stuckle and I claim my $5. > > >> AHS > > ROFLMAO! This has got to be the stoopidest post you've ever made. And you've made some pretty stoopid ones! -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle JDS Computer Training Corp. jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================