Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Gregorie Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 21:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <52a5b585$0$2906$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 21:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e5160e2be48f1ea550cf61512446f525"; logging-data="14282"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18L3UtoxPY4aPw0zvFLsJ9StM0/m7CoWqE=" User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ErCA95r9Ji7pBVoBtEqsfhCjuTQ= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:26805 On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 12:02:53 -0400, Arved Sandstrom wrote: > Let me put something else out there. 30 hours is a short semester if we > suppose three 1-hour classes per week. Is it even realistic to try and > introduce any kind of GUI (Swing, JavaFX, servlets with simple HTML etc) > in 30 hours? Perhaps console output is all you should shoot for. > That makes sense to me, and might even free up a little time to teach the use of sockets implement a simple client/server pair and/or the use of JDBC to access a simple database such as a simple schema supported by Derby. The concepts behind both suggestions are pretty straight forward, IMO rather more so than using a GUI. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |