Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Higgins Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 13:17:27 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 18:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6b9e92482af47766954d85fb77d372f5"; logging-data="15127"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX184ePRZ3X/MHcfOn78GdryzbGwLhfxJHek=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131103 Icedove/17.0.10 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:wwY7/tgWU/uk6jbYS88gh8DDNiM= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:26777 On 12/08/2013 11:00 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: > Many Java classes and Java books teach Java foundations and > then Java OOP to finally be able to show how Swing can be > used to create programs that look like beginners expect > programs to look like, i.e., they do not write some text to > an old-fashioned text console, but run as a GUI windows. > > But then, I hear everywhere: »Java on the Desktop is dead.«. > Now I asked myself: Is it wrong to teach how to write Java > desktop applications in a class (using Swing)? After all, > you do not want to waste the time of the students by > teaching them something that is »dead«? > It would be wrong to accept a student whose educational objective misaligned with your syllabus. Are you seeking reassurance?