Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Higgins Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: the true literal Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:39:53 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6b9e92482af47766954d85fb77d372f5"; logging-data="15565"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/IrVQ7fq7WmUY8Jq8oprMk2ntrPkmOWjw=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131103 Icedove/17.0.10 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:dMi6QkwiB4MoWfBbg1p5DqnsnlE= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:26583 On 11/22/2013 01:33 PM, Eric Sosman wrote: > On 11/22/2013 11:07 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote: >> On 11/22/2013 09:37 AM, Eric Sosman wrote: >>> [...] >>> To me, this seems a good example of a "difference that makes >>> no difference" -- but a hair-splitting literal-ist (sorry) might >>> find a difference just so he can feel smug about it. >> [...] >> In general discussion, including usenet, a hair-splitting literal-ist >> (ok?) stance can be taken, and motivated by smug. Specification writers, >> compiler writers, general purpose program writers,and others might >> have other motivations. I'm certain that Stefan Ram was not seeking an >> answer to his question in preparation to take a smug stance in some >> discussion. My motivation to respond to Stefan's question was not smug, >> even if it appeared hair-splitting and literalist. Other respondents >> have not come off as smug to me. The (online) Free Dictionary has >> literalist as a noun and literalistic as an adjective. > > Jeff, I intended to apply the word "smug" to the writers > of the JLS, not to you nor to Stefan nor to anyone else in > this thread. If I were in a cafe eating and drinking with a group that included writers of the JLS I would tolerate a smug attitude up to a point. The JLS is a fine specification as specifications go. > If my post came across as insulting, I humbly > crave pardon; I should know by now that Usenet does not always > convey nuance well, and should not have expected that wryness > would come across as such. > I appreciate the wryness, and other fine qualities of your posts to this group. I hate smug posts, and try hard (perhaps not always successfully) not to produce one. A lot of coffee this AM, may be time for a sandwich an a more soothing beverage.