Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Gregorie Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: J2EE Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <521fc2b1$0$300$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <522159b8$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <52229aee$0$299$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e5160e2be48f1ea550cf61512446f525"; logging-data="22623"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NoSUrOEDvUFUJBF/1wn//Mk5kyVfV8Tg=" User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fewJI8iJSDj8jGk294SU7R9Tcr0= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:25191 On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:39:57 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 8/31/2013 6:58 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:49:26 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> >>> Most of JDBC has always been in SE. >>> >>> Things that in early days should have been in SE but ended up in EE: >>> * mail client * web service client * ORM >>> >>> Things that in later days has been properly put in SE: >>> * web service client * JMX >>> >> FWIW, I mainly use SE Java to write the sort of stuff I'd formerly do >> in C, i.e. to get more portability and to take advantage of the larger >> standard class library and Swing and friends. The only stuff I've >> needed that hasn't been in SE was javamail > > Web service client and database ORM seems natural in SE context to me. > You have not had the need for them, but I think many must have. > Fair comment. I haven't needed Web Service yet, though that doesn't mean that I won't need it, especially if it can be used to distribute Java applications rather than applets. I've nothing against the latter, or wouldn't if browser behaviour was a bit more consistent and reliable when running them. I've written a lot of SQL in the past and am happy to use it directly via JDBC, so encapsulating that in a class seems more natural to me than using the database ORM, but ymmv. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |