Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: eric@invalid.com (EricF) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: J2EE Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 03:13:20 GMT Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <521fc2b1$0$300$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Injection-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 03:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="3271fe9d60ca1325519884d47a64d7b3"; logging-data="21766"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19dI7QVpRk8JsYEVTZMtsCK" X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Cancel-Lock: sha1:0Mcn1VYqHwgE3/pmQjz7awN5E+E= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:25177 In article , eric@invalid.com (EricF) wrote: >In article <521fc2b1$0$300$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= wrote: >>On 8/29/2013 12:26 PM, Arved Sandstrom wrote: >>> Having said that, the whole business of differentiations of the Java >>> platform is awkward and unfortunate. >> >>..NET has similar (client profile, full profile, CF, SL, PCL, WP, Win8). >> >>> In order to do many "standard" >>> things with Java you actually need Java EE libraries. I don't know the >>> exact history, but I can see a few marketing dudes at Sun back in the >>> day embracing the "enterprise" buzzword, and deciding that such and such >>> APIs were enterprise-y...which is meaningless actually. >>> >>> If you want to do serious work with Java you cannot not do Java EE. >>> Unless you're really niche. And quite frankly, for most Java developers >>> the amount of Java EE APIs they need to master is a small percentage of >>> the whole. >> >>That was how it was, but in latest versions it seems to me that they >>have been willing to put more stuff in SE. >> >>Arne >> >Arved may have been referring to jsp/servlets? I think jdbc has moved to SE. >Personally I think you can do a lot of serious work without JEE, >professionally you are likely to need JSP or servlets. (Spring can handle >much of the JEE functionality.) > >Eric What was I thinking? JDBC has been in SE for a long time. Eric