Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Maher Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Developing for AWT/Swing and Android portability Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:56:47 +0800 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 72 Message-ID: References: <520c1295$0$304$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <520ed808$0$303$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <521175f9$0$298$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: jOhPn0KFjrxwuMc9OPMmCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:25055 On 8/19/2013 9:33 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> Oracle does not make any money from applet technology. >> >> How much do they make from JavaFX? > > That is a very good question. > > My assumption will be that Oracle will not make any > money from JavaFX at all. > > But the calendar says 2013 now. Hold on Arne! Please put those goal posts down long enough to acknowledge that what is to follow is a stream of subjective time-warped platitudes that somehow seek to justify any continued investment (user-time or Oracle-money) in a product that you personally like - JavaFX. Conversely you are full of FUD for a much more worthy and feature rich architecture that you are less fond of - Applets. Ok, back to memory lane:- > > When SUN started the JavaFX project back in 2007 the world > was different. > > Adobe and MS were quite successful with Flex and SL for RIA. And > they were actually selling development tools and server side > stuff for it. > > Well - the "HTML5 wave" killed that business opportunity. > > The new smart touch screen smartphones and tablets was just > around the corner and a touch screen friendly Java GUI API > could make Java the standard on those and be the foundation > for a lot of business. > > Well - Google chose their own Java GUI API for Android, so > no business there either. > > But I am sure that back in 2007 then JavaFX looked not only > as a technical interesting project but also as a commercial > interesting project. And trying to make the OP's selection easier and bring this back on-topic that me re-iterate that JavaFX is a dead-end unless it is 2007 where you live. Actually it was a pile of shite back then too! This is why no one has done anything with it in 6 years. > > Arne > > Cheers Richard Maher > > > PS. Came across this today following up the Geolocation stuff: - https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI https://wiki.mozilla.org/Kilimanjaro Don't spend a lot of time of on them but it's worth while being aware! I'm sure you can suck some of your customers in to paying big bickies for a dead-end technology for a while just because you're all too afraid to leave the warm and fuzzies of a Java UI, but it's "when" not "if". Now if we can only get rid of that useless prick Larry put in charge of Applets then Java may still have a presence on the client!