Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Gregorie Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Developing for AWT/Swing and Android portability Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 23:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <520c1295$0$304$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 23:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e5160e2be48f1ea550cf61512446f525"; logging-data="7510"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/guXSix7/8DQjJF2p0w9HCy09rNh6wN9I=" User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NO0zY+a2aDOyKEHmEJDoEt2ghrU= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:25036 On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:23:31 -0300, Arved Sandstrom wrote: > Slight quibble. I don't see "truly" and "OO" going together well, since > OO == "object-oriented", and in many OO languages that "oriented" bit > really just means "you can write good OO code with the tools > provided...*if* you want to, or know how to", but that's all it means. > IM (limited) E this applies especially to C++. I've seen more "C++" source which is really just ANSI C with '//' comments than C++ with actual class declarations. > Java - and I'm not dissing Java for this, many other OO languages are > like this too - let's you write what is essentially procedural code if > you want to, so I wouldn't use the word "truly". > Agreed. The observation that "a 'Real Programmer' can write FORTRAN in any language" is still true. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |