Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Robert Klemme Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Alternatives languages on the JVM: which one or is there no alternative? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:10:58 +0100 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5293388a$0$15988$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net GKjO1X/uBy8FIrXToMwB1wCknlixR1nLNVaNtbNqov+d8w+K0= Cancel-Lock: sha1:PSU1CU3VRh3kGhePNnIWJQFl8JM= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 In-Reply-To: <5293388a$0$15988$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 131125-1, 25.11.2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:26613 On 25.11.2013 12:46, Silvio wrote: > The lack of expressiveness in Java the language has given birth to > horrible frameworks that take annotations to the extreme, creating their > own little (or not so little) languages on top of the core language, > something I foresaw when annotations where introduced making me an > immediate opponent of the feature. Annotations are one of the major innovations in the Java language. The fact that they can be abused (and are abused) for me is not criteria enough to dislike or even ban the feature. You wouldn't forbid knifes even though a lot of people die from them, would you? Btw, Saxo did you consider JRuby? It's actually one of the fastest Ruby variants, has a nice and appealing syntax, you can use all the Java classes and, if you like, Rails. Kind regards robert -- remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/