Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!81.171.88.16.MISMATCH!hq-usenetpeers!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:57:10 -0500 From: "Chris Uppal" Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer References: <33990a2f-f59c-434f-9db4-6713e31f4c05@googlegroups.com> <11b809de-5b61-44de-9971-5c8db172467a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help with paper, rock, scissors game Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:56:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Message-ID: Lines: 33 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-FOLkI+t+WtvFSOW2jldtEyzqjemL7PW0MrINC8t+vMxIqd8UxE1E2YWtAlRpRNYYKLL9T8xxczt6tdI!pp09tAAVKXq4qrLTDNvMSH5UCaAuKj2PNMXtT2t5mULMyYAZj7qajpR8b4+At398a2/60YV6/Q== X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3100 X-Received-Bytes: 3269 X-Received-Body-CRC: 240068183 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:29191 Martin Gregorie wrote: > > Caveat: that only applies if it's obvious, without hindsight, that you > > can easily find out by searching. So, when there's an obvious, fairly > > specific search to use, [...]. > > Don't read all that carefully, do you? Ponder the meaning of "something > you could easily have found out by searching" and reconsider your caveat. More than that, I think. Skill in using the Net to find information is now a vital part of every professional programmer's toolkit (I say "every" but I admit there may be some exceptions). Nobody expects beginners to have that skill -- searching for, /and identifying/, reliable technical information is a skill in itself which is not (as far as I know) taught, and doesn't (as far as I know) come all that naturally (I've watched many Net-generation people search for technical stuff and make a mess of it). It's no shame to encourage a beginner to practise a skill s/he will be dependent on for the foreseeable future. OTOH, practise does need some sort of confirmation -- I can easily practise spotting which of the people I see around me are really space aliens, members of MI6, whatever. But without confirmation I can't get better at it. So /only/ saying "use Google" is also less helpful than it could be. So -- IMO -- one good template for answers might be: Here are the basics, ... For more information, look for search terms like xxx, yyy. You may have to filter out references to zzz since that's a completely different topic. -- chris