Path: csiph.com!xmission!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!fx16.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pitts User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Need Java/J2EE Developer References: <16639800-859a-4194-ac2c-646eaac1445a@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <16639800-859a-4194-ac2c-646eaac1445a@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsrazor.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:14:47 UTC Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:14:44 -0700 X-Received-Bytes: 2379 X-Received-Body-CRC: 130197226 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:32311 On 8/12/15 12:08 PM, e.d.programmer@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 2:20:25 PM UTC-4, Eternal Hope wrote: >> $50.00 an hour? >> >> Are you taking the piss >> >> I'll do it for $150.00 an hour, 6 weeks paid holiday a year, company >> car, luxury apartment and a couple of chicks not over 22 (apologies to >> Ry Cooder) > > In my town $50 an hour is good, or used to be. I'm not sure how much that is these days if you have to buy your own health insurance. I'm not sure what the cost of living is like in Jersey City, but it does sound rather low for the qualifications they're listing. > Good compared to the town is different than good compared to the job market. $150 is on the very-high high end for a Java developer though, being $312k/yr You're more likely to get $50-$100 + benefits, depending on the level of experience and contribution expected. Assuming 40hr/week, $50/hr is equivalent to $104k/yr, which is what I would offer a senior/lead level engineer. Eg someone who can take high level requirements, work out a design that fits it all together. Someone who can work directly with customers and product designers to ensure the problems being solved are the right ones to solve, and they are solved the right way. For $150/hr, I would expect someone who doesn't actually touch code at all, but instead knows the CEO of the company, and doesn't actually do any work. Unless of course they're a lawyer, in which case that's a discounted rate by far ;-)