Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.teledata-fn.de!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!backlog3.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!backlog3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:11:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:11:24 +0000 From: lipska the kat Organization: Trollbusters 3 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130308 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: What's the best non-JVM native language to look at? References: <428f8206-d4f7-4fe6-b93c-8f881b498be6@googlegroups.com> <99qdnVXamdWBRErPnZ2dnUVZ8mOdnZ2d@bt.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <9cOdnRrCbc4ymUXPnZ2dnUVZ7sCdnZ2d@bt.com> Lines: 27 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-FEw8jVbx6FrS2yNqhPyY1GVgTl3UT3TNQu0+w4MRNQBes5hKV81E3ji53lPJfxFk2nafapECLgoBNo6!Br+UfftZR4QNZKV952z3JT34V49pqD5LA/PKA8pLA0+6oUEdO6ULRVnz7IH9pluPwxur4QdVWw4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3131 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:27320 On 16/01/14 15:05, Saxo wrote: > Thanks for your reply lipska. You surely have a point here. And on all popularity lists C is among the top 3 languages. Somehow I just hated to do plain boring C: "not exciting enough syndrom". I have been spending time here and then for the last months as a matter of fact and your comment helped me through to see things more objectively. Think I found a way to get plain C programming more exciting: I use Objective-C from which you can easily call C and even C++. So I write my Objective-C code for fun (maybe I get to program Objective-C one day, who knows) and embed some C or C++ code in my Objective-C files. There are numerous articles on the Internet that describe how to get this done. And XCode is a real nice IDE. So that sounds like a plan now ;-). > > Cheers, Saxo > Well I wouldn't call it 'plain boring C' but YMMV :-) I have never used an IDE for anything 'C type' I prefer gedit (or emacs if I feel masochistic), make and a terminal window. Having said that I don't think I've ever written anything other than the most trivial Java *outside* of an IDE as I just can't be bothered with all that classpath nonsense, so, I guess it depends on your preferences. Whatever you do for $DEITY's sake *enjoy* it. It's supposed to be *fun*. There are so many uptight, pompous, self obsessed egomaniacs in this business that you have to maintain a sense of reality. It *really really* isn't that important. As they say, 'if it feels good, do it' Good luck -- Lipska the KatŠ: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer, treacherous feline and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun GNU/Linux user #560883 - http://www.linuxcounter.net