Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mit.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Lewis Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: error discription and solution Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 20:47:17 +0100 Organization: Lewis Lines: 32 Message-ID: <87a9d79i9m.fsf@gmail.com> References: <7ad4a15c-7e35-4d08-a61f-4d673f5d4ef0@googlegroups.com> <081fg9thirl4u17mdbeq8q3oocgtbakr7t@4ax.com> <97SdnYwVB7SC1onOnZ2dnUVZ8gednZ2d@bt.com> <140f3bv3kst7.7zenor3r2v2k.dlg@40tude.net> <5ujw21gfmtzd$.1jtrdvdlsnf4y.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mit.eternal-september.org; posting-host="c6032b6f07821699bb88661f42da3efb"; logging-data="6391"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/QM6Rtdvw35tg8OAEoM0DmTr/Fn92Te9E=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KmhxOH1TfJRtw68hnxV6X50w6sA= sha1:N1vyyMhrG04havMmgWT1HCMEDoI= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:27675 Joerg Meier writes: > On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:17:07 -0600, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote: > >> Joerg Meier wrote: >>> That is an unfair and disgenuine argument. Nobody is suggesting people >>> don't LEARN how things work. You asked how to get something to work, not >>> how to learn about how the Java build process works. Going by your answer, >>> I would suggest you abandon Java completely, and instead focus on learning >>> Assembler, which of course you should only ever write using Notepad. >> Obligatory link to the Story of Mel: > >> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html > > Every few years, someone links this, and every time, I read it again to my > great delight. As my life progresses, it's interesting for me to note how > my view of Mel changed over the years - from uncompromising and unreflected > hero worship when I was still young and a cowboy, to "I hope I never have > to fix code like that" when I started working on multi-person projects for > the first time, to "I hope I never have a coworker like that", ending with > "I hope I never have an employee like that". > > Mel is, at once, the best and the worst aspects of a clever programmer. > > Liebe Gruesse, > Joerg Does he also say only losers need a debugger? That's another cracker based on something Kernighan said 50 years ago when a large program was about 32 lines long....