Path: csiph.com!news.bbs.geek.nz!.POSTED.agency.bbs.geek.nz!not-for-mail From: Jerry Stuckle (Jerry Stuckle) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Abandonware should fall back into the public domain Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 19:48:52 +1200 Organization: fsxNet Usenet Gateway | bbs.geek.nz/#fsxNet Message-ID: <2390873759@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> References: <2758814204@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: news.bbs.geek.nz; posting-host="M6YmRdZYyc42DJk0lNlt/X4dpP4dzvceBNabSmESN3E"; logging-data="25937"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.bbs.geek.nz" User-Agent: VSoup v1.2.9.47Beta [95/NT] X-Comment-To: Richard Damon X-MailConverter: SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:37747 On 11/30/2017 10:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/30/17 9:27 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> As the years go by and more and more previously commercial (and even >> open source) software makes the move into abandonware, where the original >> copyright and/or patent holder is no longer maintaining or developing the >> software ... my view is it should move into the area of the public >> domain, >> legally protected for any use at that point, with all restrictions on use >> rights completely removed, allowing binary deconstruction, reverse >> engineering, machine code extraction, essentially use for any purpose. >> >> It makes no sense that abandonware should not receive a legal standing, >> such that any person or company who approaches it for use is actually >> protected under the law.â They should have that protection.â The use of >> that pre-existing tool should be at their disposal when the entity who >> originally held rights to it walks away. >> > > One problem is that the author of the program may not have the right to > give you those abilities. Say for instance you buy program X from > company Y, under licensing rules Z (including perhaps an exchange of > money). What you might not know is that company Y in producing program > X, included software package A from company B, under rules C, which are > reflected in some of the rules Z. > > The fact that company Y has abandoned X, in no way relieves them from > rules C, which they passed on to you. That's why IBM never released the code for OS/2 when they abandoned it. Some of the code was written (and owned) by Microsoft, and IBM couldn't release it. A shame. A great OS by a company who never could market to consumers. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================