Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Roedy Green Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: new JDK versions Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 06:22:03 -0700 Organization: Canadian Mind Products Lines: 39 Message-ID: <22i7l993as7r9uhcpk8java7os9uib1bkm@4ax.com> References: <8qtsk9t7id2pv6dl56ugepkshhldq8a61t@4ax.com> <2dr0l9hrcpei3nb2ii2h92ahgjntduev6p@4ax.com> <8C14v.219206$ZP3.145822@fx20.iad> <5351b6ca$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Reply-To: Roedy Green NNTP-Posting-Host: K2Qzzs3EAqXk5RLzfhxcSw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:28141 On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:40:00 +0100, "Chris Uppal" wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : > >security definitely known not to be required or desirable (by anyone) => HTTP >else => HTTPS For web browsing, most people would rather have the speed. Programmers would prefer to see what is going on clear text. If I am reading catalogs, material on how to use java, etc, I can't think of any reason why I might want to keep that secret, though I am sure somebody would. I could see wanting to keep secret that I visited some porn site, but it is not that important exactly what the images looked like. HTTPS does not hide that for you. When I send passwords, I would like that part encrypted. I never use credit cards on the net. IT is like handing over books of blank cheques. But for those that do, those conversations should be automatically HTTPS. I wonder if there could be a way to run a site both in http/https where which protocol used = user wants HTTPS || webmaster wants HTTPS. You really should not need to duplicate everything with minor differences. Politically, I tried to talk people into routinely sending email encrypted. I figured if you encrypted even spam, it would overwhelm the bad guys blanket snooping. The move to routine HTTPS may have the same effect. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com "Don't worry about people stealing an idea; if it's original, you'll have to shove it down their throats." ~ Howard Aiken (born: 1900-03-08 died: 1973-03-14 at age: 73)