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On 02/01/14 12:09, Qu0ll wrote:
> "lipska the kat"  wrote in message
> news:WJCdnYC44fWipFjPnZ2dnUVZ8sidnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
> Reply at the end, sorry for the lack of indentation..,
>
<snip>

> Well I'm not sure what kind of Java applications you write but in the
> world I inhabit the client request "we just want to add one more field
> to this form" is guaranteed to send a shiver down the spine as it's
> usually followed by "How much?, for adding a single field? you gotta be
> kidding".
>
> To add a single persisted field to an input form requires the
> modification of most if not all of the layers of an application.
>
> Adding a single field to a product line for example would probably
> require the modification of all the CRUD methods for that line, not to
> mention the inclusion of the field in the search algorithms, modifying
> the validation layer, incorporating the field in a logical place in the
> HCI, modifying and refactoring the relevant code etc etc. Anything that
> can reduce the amount of work required to implement such an apparently
> trivial change has got to be a good idea.
>
> Having said that, I don't used ORMs myself, I mean I've tried, I've
> really tried but I start reading the documentation and my eyes glaze
> over and I discover that I need to learn 'another' (query) language and
> I decide that it's just not worth the effort. Stick to SQL, accept the
> overhead and I don't think you can go far wrong.
>
> Just my 2 euros worth
>
> --------------------------
>
> I find myself actually agreeing with you again.

Steady now

> Adding even a single field to the underlying data structures is *not*
> straightforward at all in a typical Java application.
>
> I also tend to agree with your comment regarding ORMs v. standard SQL.

Twice? In one day? What were you drinking new years eve :-)

Only kidding, nice to know it's not just me.

>
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