Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: questions re Javascript Followup-To: comp.lang.javascript Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 22:16:24 +0200 Organization: PointedEars Software (PES) Lines: 45 Message-ID: <1956488.2vupmE4M81@PointedEars.de> References: <2b531f48-fff9-4c73-a116-22a3f110e919@googlegroups.com> <020920150828500988%timstreater@greenbee.net> <3247094.1kJgyrEJG5@PointedEars.de> Reply-To: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn NNTP-Posting-Host: 178.197.226.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Trace: solani.org 1441484395 12211 178.197.226.36 (5 Sep 2015 20:19:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.solani.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 20:19:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-User-ID: eJwNy0kBwDAIBEBLEAIscsLlX0I7/1ExtvJraldXt+Y2dwY2LShpnvOzUUiDhMlQLuiK8HmcmTiHulD/d4R/ZG0Vdg== Cancel-Lock: sha1:r/N4+iqZYVZyePM16uacIyh/STM= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.javascript:28647 comp.lang.java.programmer:32542 [F'up2 comp.lang.javascript] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> On 9/4/2015 11:33 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: >>> What I objected to was the typical wording >>> >>> »JavaScript /has nothing to do/ with Java.«. >>> >>> To me, it would be disputable too when one would say, >>> >>> »English has nothing to do with French.«. >> >> I think the term "has nothing to do with" should be seen in context. >> >> If it is a thread about the evolution of languages and how they >> relate, then it is not a good statement. >> >> If it is a thread with a specific question about >> syntax/semantics/library, then I think it is a pretty good >> statement. > > The statement should be modified to say “has *little* to do with Java” in > that context because JavaScript was intentionally designed to resemble > Java syntactically and semantically. And, I should add, probably as a result of the Sun/Netscape agreement, starting from version 1.2 (in Netscape 4.0), (Netscape) JavaScript was modified to access Java applets (a feature called LiveConnect, actually a part of the Netscape AOM, which was removed from the core language definition with version 1.4 (server-side only) and eventually became XPConnect, an official part of the Mozilla AOM, with Mozilla JavaScript 1.5/Mozilla 1.0; the origin of the Netscape Plugin API [NPAPI] for which support is gradually being removed from browsers now), and Java was modified so that you could access JavaScript code from applets embedded in an HTML document (still called LiveConnect). p. -- PointedEars FAQ: | SVN: Twitter: @PointedEars2 | ES Matrix: Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.