Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:53:36 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <2e398151-3bb9-4827-8b25-2065117703f1@googlegroups.com> <551bd2e8.431024070@news.eternal-september.org> <0489b859-b786-45b8-a44f-2795378f59d6@googlegroups.com> <551d76ee.538549100@news.eternal-september.org> <1bf3bfd8-d975-4cdf-95d1-fa5e8b191d5e@googlegroups.com> <557b6827.160652996@news.eternal-september.org> <17a95cc8-60f1-4322-9681-81773244be89@googlegroups.com> <914501ad-55b8-424b-8741-b1d3c387863c@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: n4wpt9zq8xR26Ttf9mo2BA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:39735 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 02:12:25 -0400, wrote: > On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 1:36:42 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: >> Raise your hand if you have an interest in Hugh's "disambiguifiers"! >> Personally, I think you'd do better with an in-depth paper on using >> CREATE .. DOES> effectively... > > Cross-compilers are, pretty much, the only way to make money in Forth. > That has been my experience anyway. You're in this for money, right? So ... Where is yours, again? > Micro-controllers are really where it is at. By "it" you did mean money, yes? Or, by "at" did you mean that micro-controllers are what you want to work with? > Your interest in Forth is to prove that C is the "god language," My interest in Forth was and is just the personal accomplishment from implementing it or simply the act of doing so. Nothing more. Since I already know C is the "god language", why would I need to prove that? I don't see why you keep bringing this up except to incite others to attack. > that Forth is a toy interpreter similar to Lua or Python except > without any features It may be "toy" or it may not be. It seems to be decent as compared to other ITC interpreted Forths which are mostly from the fig-Forth era. It clearly won't outclass a compiled Forth, even one without optimization. It clearly isn't as developed as other Forths in terms of both supported words and utilities, but many fig-Forths and other free Forths weren't all that developed either. Although I understood the DTC, ITC, TTC, and STC concepts from decades ago, I never implemented any of them before. So, I did learn much about the ITC style of interpreter which is useful for other language projects and interpreted applications. > I don't care if you and your ilk raise your hands or not YAHOO! I've been re-ranked and promoted to: "ilk". I don't recall your last classification for me, but, IIRC, it was below ilk ... > your importance in the Forth world is below zero. Are you claiming your importance to the Forth world isn't below zero also? ... Is that your problem? I.e., you want to be as important or as respected as Ms. Rather, Anton Ertl, or Stephen Pelc? So, you attack them to prove your worth? ... Weird. Seriously, I honestly don't see the respect here or the following required for that. Have you tried a Forth forum where no one knows of you? Here, I'll help you with a plan of attack: Step 1) Help the NEWBs for a year or two to build up your cachet. Step 2) Pronounce ANS to be dead. The NEWBs won't know any better. Step 3) Declare your Forth to be the way of the future and provide some straw man arguments or other logical fallacies to prove it to them. They simply can't tell the difference. You're great at this form of misdirection. Like politics, an outrageous lie is the power backing all great leaders. Step 4) Convince your minions to go forth and spread the new prophecy. Step 5) Once the outside world partakes, claim your vindication. Wait. Did I mix that up? I'm not entirely sure (feigned), but those might just be the directions for building a cult or resurrecting Nazism ... Rod Pemberton -- It's time to put an end to gun violence! Use a hammer ...