Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:36:25 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <49aa991d-41c6-44ae-afe4-ad1b7434011b@googlegroups.com> <62cc3792-e246-4f0b-b671-c09908d5f3b0@googlegroups.com> <9f8a7188-7ef0-4ae4-8341-e27a41f9a44b@googlegroups.com> <836283a2-64a1-4811-b653-13a099fbbb46@googlegroups.com> <0ade3c7c-d1c0-41f5-8f5e-055d66aaff6b@googlegroups.com> <53c928c6.819888433@news.demon.co.uk> <7xmwc69rdv.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <7xegxi9pzi.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <7edd6024-75fc-4c09-a7a9-892cd8b2c176@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CNsg4fVcCsvs3UaOgZtQCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:32496 On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:36:18 -0400, wrote: > One of the more stupid design decisions in ANS-Forth, was to make locals > work with TO. This is another thread entirely: "Vote Hugh or vote NO on TO with locals" > In my language, locals produce an address that can then be accessed with > @ and ! like any variable (I don't support TO at all). Uh... How is that any different from just using a variable? > I really believe that the only way for Forth to succeed, is > to abandon ANS-Forth. Why? Please, back that up for once, like with a list. I didn't even attempt to do ANS, yet nearly everything I implemented passes (or did) Hayes ANS core tests. So, what is so terrible with ANS-Forth? It's clear to me that ANS is not all that different from pre-ANS Forth. Rod Pemberton