Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: There is no standard Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 14:24:48 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <2014Jun25.190415@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <4a88ae68-1b29-4cbc-9ebc-f569d416755e@googlegroups.com> <53ac0855$0$15826$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <2452a4d1-7def-46ed-b44e-a57dc435e62d@googlegroups.com> <857aa763-442e-49a6-a0cb-d4d196d0fe34@googlegroups.com> <9b197fa3-30df-45fa-bd7b-6f4f42c6e32d@googlegroups.com> <04d7e450-9ccf-44b6-b5e5-931946d30d3d@googlegroups.com> <4b423ef5-d0a7-4fa7-ba0b-be7770dbf16c@googlegroups.com> <48f8ea2e-ab12-44b2-bd94-315801e3be4f@googlegroups.com> <35c7b10e-0e9d-4c33-a4ac-05384f649313@googlegroups.com> <8fc2572f-c72e-47bd-8d00-ed0e4b6bef43@googlegroups.com> <44a74952-8817-4dee-9817-010c63d4c94f@googlegroups.com> <8b1325a8-4667-4a3e-af00-e5e1b6967ffc@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CNsg4fVcCsvs3UaOgZtQCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:32011 On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:12:45 -0400, Roger Levy wrote: > Programming languages generally suck. They're terrible. Far too > complicated than what they need to be. Which languages are exempt from "generally"? I'd guess that you'd say three languages: BASIC, C, Forth. BASIC because it's simple. C and Forth because they're close the machine. Is that a good guess? Or, do you mean C and Forth are "far too complicated" too? ... In that case, you're no longer criticizing the language, but criticing the complexity of the machine. I.e., you're saying the EE's (electrical engineers) who designed the machine are too smart for you because they designed in too much complexity for you to handle. > People spend more time dealing with the tool than being original > or solving problems. I don't see that as being the case with C. Rod Pemberton