Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.ecp.fr!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Go Forth And Prosper Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:17:35 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <7ecf883f-c724-442c-b1d4-d0756a54f267@googlegroups.com> <7xbnus496o.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <7xsio4nqg1.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CNsg4fVcCsvs3UaOgZtQCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:30535 On Tue, 20 May 2014 16:50:31 -0400, rickman wrote: > On 5/20/2014 4:30 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: >> It seems to me, lots of other boards are done in small to moderate >> quantities at much lower cost. How many Trinkets do you think >> adafruit.com sells? > > Don't know, don't care. I build hardware for a living and it is hard to > build low quantities of anything for under $100 and actually make a > buck. I can't really dispute anything you've said because one man's > "moderate" quanities are another man's "mass" quantities. I'm talking > about 100 to 1000. Every time I build 100 boards it costs me about $100 > a board which contains some $40 in semiconductors. I suppose the parts > cost on Simon's boards is much less than $40, but that just means his > costs are in line with mine I think. Ok, this might sound "snippety", but let the user supply more of their own hardware. E.g., when I buy a PC motherboard it comes with an empty socket for a processor, empty sockets for memory, empty connectors for USB cables, etc. Then, buyers of your boards and Simon's and other board producers can go in on a mass bulk purchase of those items, if they want, or re-use existing components, or use more off-the-shelf components, e.g., USB hardware, instead of custom stuff. Rod Pemberton