Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Epic Fail Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:21:02 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <2014Apr7.192923@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <19597f37-fa23-478f-9a5f-b2aa66e89ae4@googlegroups.com> <2014Apr8.175427@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2014Apr9.181655@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <64idnem648RzN9jOnZ2dnUVZ8iWdnZ2d@supernews.com> <4cde73fc-f677-4377-ac78-7f81ee13ae65@googlegroups.com> <7bde558d-6b98-4de9-b13f-ff87c51f3faf@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CNsg4fVcCsvs3UaOgZtQCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:29597 On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 13:52:06 -0400, wrote: > I know that locals in C are initialized to whatever happened to be in > memory. This is one of the many cases in which K&R chose > speed-optimization over reliability. Typically, locals are immediately set to a value. If not, they're typically set to a value at a later time, sometimes more than one possible value later. So, why clear always? > If you've told me this 30 times and I still don't believe it, then maybe > you should find a more productive hobby --- like teaching pigs to sing. Well, if they can make floppy drives sing, like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Pj9IlOxQc I guess pigs would work too ... For pigs, I'd think you'd need to have multiple feeders that would respond to a variety of different grunts. If pigs are even slightly selective in their food choices, or perhaps prefer liquids then solids, with many pigs, you'd have a single instrument orchestra, with a limited range of notes, a variety of sounds, and an improvised song: OOOooIIIIInk, oink, oink, oink, Oink, oink, oink, ... Why does that sound like a Rickroll? Of course, this is the modern era. So, it'd be easier to sample the 'oink', and generate changes to the note pitch and amplitude via a DSP or software Fourier transforms, etc. Was that an echo of you saying we don't discuss Forth? Rod Pemberton