Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: A friendly tech-forum Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 02:36:20 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <7aca9e9f-0e77-42de-82c9-89e7cba36ab3@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: n4wpt9zq8xR26Ttf9mo2BA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:44141 On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:41:35 -0500, Bernd Paysan wrote: > JUERGEN wrote: >> I remember the abuse I got when I suggested to give more power to the >> vendors in the Standards Group, to bring the language forward. > > I give you a hint: By supporting a minority of the TC, and showing > disrespect to the rest of the TC, you seriously insulted people. Ron, I wish you well in your utopic endeavor Ron, but the eventual outcome is already obvious to me: anarchy or dictatorship. If you weren't seriously paying attention to my comments, re-read those lines above by Bernd and JUERGEN in regards to the TC, which is another "walled off kingdom" of sorts, and then re-read my statements summarized here: "[...] Birds of a feather flock together ... Over time exclusionary environments shift toward the majority belief of those in control and discriminate against the minority. [...] Freedom is founded upon dissenting voices, openness, optional anonymity, and a willingness to listen others out of respect." ;-) Clearly, the TC wasn't accepting of dissenting voices. The majority did discriminate against the minority. And, there wasn't respect of of certain TC members or potential members. The Japanese supposedly have a saying which says the nail which sticks out gets hammered down. German culture is extremely authoritarian and dominating. It's why Volkswagen employees followed orders to produce a vehicle which would pass emissions and sell well in other countries. When communication is only one direction, it didn't matter that they couldn't actually do so. > Everything else is a Hugh-like reality distortion: Hugh's only reality distortion is his incessant rants on Ms. Rather et. al. The rest of what he says seems sane, although sometimes radical. Rod Pemberton -- How to kill Facebook. Tell a bunch of fourth graders that only old people use Facebook. Wait eight years.