Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: machineforth != forth? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:19:40 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <5cf160f0-e431-4309-b45a-70db3e6c9d79@googlegroups.com> <1fffb5d0-9a3f-4de4-81d9-0dbf73b4df55@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: n4wpt9zq8xR26Ttf9mo2BA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:41436 On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 04:46:55 -0400, wrote: > I am not a big KISS proponent, but lately it has become clear to > me that any program / programming system will develop into a > monster of complexity over its lifetime (look at SPICE or Matlab, > or gcc, or Linux ...). One should fight that, but not every battle > needs to be or can be won. I usually keep C programs small and dedicated for just this reason. We've all seen the massively bloated Linux utilities, which do way too much, have way too many parameters. Yet, you can't use that one utility to get the job done. You still need two more utilities, each of which do basically the same thing as the first, but they have one additional feature the others don't have, which is needed to get the job done. e.g., 'ps -e' and 'kill' versus 'pkill' 'du' versus 'df' 'find' versus 'ls' 'nc' versus 'nmap','telnet','ping' Why are there three web browsers installed in Linux? Rod Pemberton -- Scientists now say we'll experience a mini-ice in 2030. So, I guess we need more global warming today ...