Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: OT: Farewell Windows Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:41:12 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <4b288676-8710-4eab-9962-b72fd8efa804@googlegroups.com> <8d106b9a-cb7a-4f89-a913-1dde4f129217@googlegroups.com> <051ef26c-7dfe-4150-8ddf-f95f3c2d66fe@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: n4wpt9zq8xR26Ttf9mo2BA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:41219 On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 02:23:13 -0400, wrote: > I checked: > > [numerous distro's] I had the same problem as you from 1996 to 2012. The first Linux I tried was Redhat 1996, then Slackware 1997. I tried well over a dozen different distro's. I've got a stack of burned cd-rom coasters. I never got one to work with all my hardware, until recently. The few times I started using Linux, the filesystem would become corrupted. This was not a hardware problem. This was with ext2 with fsck. Fortunately, for the Linux I installed a few years ago, I've not had any problems with ext4, so far ... However, I had to update every major software package, Java, Flash, Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, then recompile VLC from scratch and PDFviewer after applying patches I found on some obscure website on the internet ... It fixed the video color tables. I had to update numerous libraries and install numerous utilities and tweak many boot, startup, and login scripts, etc. That's not even including the initial install of Linux requiring fdisk and grub, which I speculate would be enough to prevent just about anyone in my family, young or old, except me, from attempting to install Linux. As for Windows, Windows 98/SE was fairly reliable, but needed a complete re-install once and a while, or refresh of MSVC redistributable files. As for Window 7 and 8, they come pre-installed and they update and fix themselves, if you have a reliable internet connection. My family hasn't had many problems with them. However, there was one bad update for one machine which was a nightmare to unroll and re-update, and there were four updates on another machine which had to be disabled since they always failed. So, despite what Bernd says, Linux is not for novices, unless, maybe, you're using the most active distro, since it'll have more support and more people fixing and updating it. > Before I discovered "Malwarebytes" I had problems with viruses > every now and then, despite antivirus software running. The worst > one was Bankerfox Nuquel-E. On Windows, you can try AVG Free for viruses and SpyBot Search and Destroy for malware. That combination usually works well. If you need more thorough removal, you can try McAfee Stinger for the most recent virus threats or Trend Micro Sysclean to detect just about any virus in existence. All of these are free. Rod Pemberton P.S. I've replied with both of these answers a few times now. -- Scientists now say we'll experience a mini-ice in 2030. So, I guess we need more global warming today ...