Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Anyone else wish this was Moderated? Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:16:59 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <3717081b-941f-400f-a27f-6c6558292c06@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CNsg4fVcCsvs3UaOgZtQCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:26436 On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 06:44:04 -0400, Andrew Haley wrote: > Rod Pemberton wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 01:55:49 -0400, Clyde W. Phillips Jr. >> wrote: >>> I can think of six or a few more more I'd trust >>> to keep this a Forth forum. >>> >> >> Moderation is a double-edged sword. >> >> You eliminate content the moderator doesn't approve. >> But, you also alienate those who post but are moderated >> in whole or in part. > > So what? As long as moderation is done right it's only > flamers and grossly off-topic postings that get moderated. > Did you miss the point? It's not just the "worst" who will be moderated. It'll be the many "regulars" too. I.e., the people you'd expect to be able to read without them being moderated. Their posts will be blocked, returned via email, or censored, i.e., moderated, too. E.g., if Bernd wanders onto history yet again, moderated. If Ms. Rather promotes FORTH Inc., moderated. If Stephen promotes MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd, moderated. If Hans promotes 4th, moderated. If Rick or Howerd wanders into microprocessors, moderated. If David or Hugh wanders into Java and C, moderated. If Arthur (mentifex) posts about Artificial Intelligence, moderated. If someone mentions "carnal knowledge" of Forth, moderated. If someone mentions closures or co-routines for Forth, moderated. If someone mentions any dissenting viewpoint or an unpopular perspective, moderated. People like WJ, Gavino, Passaniti, rickman, etc could be blocked outright depending on the moderator. 80% of Hugh would be moderated by almost any moderator: Tesco, anti-Ms. Rather, anti-C, taxi-cabs, Testra, ... Hugh's posts wouldn't make any sense after being censored. At least, we can understand them now. This isn't FUD. You need only look at a well moderated group like comp.compilers. I.e., once you get done moderating everyone fairly, consistenlty, what's left? Boring Forth code. Boring Forth specification interpretation. The regulars can't stay on-topic as-is, i.e., discuss Forth, because they're so burnt-out from seeing Forth code for days and years, a never ending, nightmare or hell. I'd say only four people here would be unmoderated... That's out of what? 100? 120? Rod Pemberton