Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Forth for education Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 04:25:29 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <5235eb3d.280545989@news.demon.co.uk> <5O6dnfRAtOK37qDPnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@supernews.com> <5P6dnZRPfda_I6PPnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@supernews.com> <9d5efb35-2a60-44a2-91a3-3bd1b689b690@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CNsg4fVcCsvs3UaOgZtQCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:26018 On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:13:49 -0400, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote: > On 9/22/13 6:22 PM, Whammo wrote: >> On Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:00:18 PM UTC-7, hughag...@yahoo.com >> wrote: >> > >> The electric car was said to be dead for over 40 years. >> If anything, Forth is a sleeping giant. >> Minimal instruction sets computing is the future. >> Libraries of code, bloatware, and operating systems are 50's thinking. >> Small, modular hardware that operates in parallel only when needed, >> means speed and efficiency. >> The technology is there, but the people making the decisions want >> smart computers/compilers and dumb programmers. >> Let computers do what they're good at- repetition, and let people >> resolve the special cases. > > The "death of Forth" is wildly exaggerated. Just yesterday I received > this note from Leon Wagner: > > "Just ended a really good week at NASA. [...] Unfortunately, NASA is a conundrum. You'd like to think their employees are brilliant, and just when you've accepted that they truly are, they do dumb shit in front of you, like fire off a rocket with a rubber seal in cold whether, or use pure oxygen around electrical equipment, and implement a very wide range of software errors like wrong units, incorrect formulas, overwritten memory locations, arithmetic overflow, and out-of-memory errors, etc. If they make such mistakes, how can we be certain their decision to use Forth is sound? Rod Pemberton