Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Darin Murphy Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Is there a free version of Forth that uses the exact same words as "Starting Forth" on Forth Inc.'s site? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 01:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Organization: news.aioe.org Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <2017Apr1.190602@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: ym+bFkgZvgU5O37+BUwdpA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Newsreader: PiaoHong.Usenet.Client.Free:1.65 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:56569 "Elizabeth D. Rather" Wrote in message: > On 4/1/17 10:37 AM, Darin Murphy wrote: >> anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) Wrote in message: >>> Darin Murphy writes: >>>> I've also tried gForth which has >>>> a crazy amount of words, and has gotten me successfully up to >>>> Chapter 7, but than it too is missing a bunch of words that are >>>> in the book. >>> >>> I looked at the word summaries for Chapter 7 and following, and the >>> only word I found that's not in Gforth is OCTAL. If you find any more >>> words missing, please let me know. >>> >>> : OCTAL 8 BASE ! ; >>> >>> - anton >>> -- >>> M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html >>> comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html >>> New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html >>> EuroForth 2016: http://www.euroforth.org/ef16/ >>> >> >> Anton, >> >> Thanks for replying so quickly. Octal was the only word missing in >> gforth in that chapter, but there were other issues with gforth >> following chapter 7. The number examples: 12,345, 12/31/80 and >> 999-6784 both cause "Undefined Word" error in gForth. Only 12. >> will create a double on the stack. The number example $200.00 >> creates the double 131072 0 on TOS. The only example that works >> is 12. or 0. Also in the later chapters there are other >> compatibilities and missing words too, but I don't have time >> right now to pick through all of them. >> >> The reason I am looking for a 100% compatible forth is because >> "Starting Forth" has been used as the defacto Forth learning tool >> for decades, but currently there isn't a forth I can find that is >> compatible with it, which is strange considering it's current >> incarnation is supposed to be 100% ANS Forth. > > Actually, Starting Forth hasn't represented mainstream Forth usage since > the early 90's. There are several other good tutorials around, including > my book Forth Application Techniques (Amazon) that represent more > contemporary usage (co-resident under an OS, disk files for source > instead of blocks, additional facilities, etc.). > > Cheers, > Elizabeth > > -- > Elizabeth R. Conklin > FORTH, Inc. > 6080 Center Drive, Suite 600 > Los Angeles, CA 90045 > USA > Thanks Mrs. Conklin for your suggestion. I'll take a look at "Forth Application Techniques" as soon as I can get the money up! If you know of any other tutorials, links to further information, etc., please let me know. Take care now. -- Darin Murphy ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/