Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alexander Skobelev Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Go Forth And Prosper Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 09:01:24 +0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <7ecf883f-c724-442c-b1d4-d0756a54f267@googlegroups.com> <18e3a2ff-b806-4d4d-aba7-a6730b7366eb@googlegroups.com> <7583a558-507e-438b-994d-55b203cc47e5@googlegroups.com> <0048bb3e-f5d8-4c80-96c0-4bbb7dae1f61@googlegroups.com> <1ba4c2c0-9409-4d3c-8f7c-d215bc95156d@googlegroups.com> <60b8cb21-eeb7-421b-a4b0-8c8a190e063f@googlegroups.com> <7xy4xpb148.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="aa881f9cf11ea285515af955b1a746c9"; logging-data="2326"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18BZ1fwitswUQGxhB07T1ik" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yBTCKhiVzqUv/JD7GxQwIOvA7nQ= sha1:wuMSIFepB9AOCmwPeuQaBVsFWhI= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:30739 Paul Rubin writes: > Alexander Skobelev writes: >> 3. I understand that you have reasons to claim that using Forth is much >> more productive over using C. But looking at Arduino example for >> blinking LED (http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/Blink) and at your's >> I2C-4SW-4LED LED-Test.txt doesn't seem to approve your claims. > > The C code for the arduino is indeed very simple, but you have to get a > big cumbersome software environment up on a host PC before you can start > programming the Arduino itself. Then you have an annoying > edit-compile-debug cycle every time you want to change the Arduino code. > The idea of a resident Forth is that most of that complexity melts away > and you program interactively, directly on the target chip. Yes. Agree. But nevertheless. Having prepared modules of some standard procedures that allow to easy use this board and its peripherals would make it much more attractive for beginners, wouldn't they? And what is wrong in being attractive for beginners? At last, the today's beginners will make tomorrow.