Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.szaf.org!news.gnuher.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!feed.news.schlund.de!schlund.de!news.online.de!not-for-mail From: Bernd Paysan Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:25:18 +0100 Organization: 1&1 Internet AG Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <153253e8-4cb9-4438-8357-9dd8872388a4@googlegroups.com> <0KidnSWD8a-kUGrPnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@supernews.com> <57250061-2462-4e0f-978e-aca53a0dd874@googlegroups.com> <52fb8bb2$0$9256$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <9278b45a-9ebc-42b8-a6da-d3f8161fc8b9@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p4fc54ef4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: online.de 1392337519 30270 79.197.78.244 (14 Feb 2014 00:25:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@einsundeins.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:25:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/4.11.5 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:28400 Hank Lenzi wrote: > As a matter of fact, I did look into it, but it just sort of froze in > Windows. Strange. I've maintained a MINOS program over years that was in use by a number of customers... But that's why I don't recommend developing FOSS for Windows: You get absolutely no useful feedback. It is next to impossible to fix bugs, unless you see them yourself. I've looked at the downloads of the bigForth for Windows version vs. the Linux version, and at one point in time, the relation was 50/50. The feedback relation was 0/100. No feedback whatsoever from the Windows side. Occasionally, when asking someone directly, he'll tell me something in the line of "it just sort of froze" or whatever most unhelpful description you can imagine. That was when I gave up. There's no culture for bug reports in the Windows user world. If you report a bug, precicely state what you did, so that this can be reproduced. Be open for a second round to make things more clear, the other side might misunderstand your problem. I've quite good experience with the few Russian guys who use Gforth on Android. They are way overrepresented in the bug reports statistics, and they do provide useful feedback. IMHO, the unhelpfulnes of Windows user feedback is that they are not used to ever get any help on feedback. Or even figure out how to reproduce bugs or get more informations. If you use Windows, you are helpless, anyways. > I'm sorry, but I can't expect Linux on our health clinic. And I have no > say in that matter either. Sure. > Also, part of the documentation was in German, IIRC. Yes, I can see that this is a problem. The German documentation is also lacking. There are people who use MINOS productively, though, and not all of them are German native speakers. Ok, the rest of them are AFAIK of Russian origin, but that might only be, because they just do provide feedback. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" http://bernd-paysan.de/