Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Paul E Bennett Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: http://www.lowrisc.org/ Open Core - is the Forth Community involved in this new 64Bit Core? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:44:38 +0000 Organization: Hidecs Consultancy Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <38ce3d1c-72a5-45fc-8672-aa3ce52e9099@googlegroups.com> <2014Nov23.150448@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2014Nov24.103647@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2014Nov24.140405@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2014Nov25.170444@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2014Nov26.124527@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: individual.net 3aCNDhvOkimuc0KwqWB9rggR8gd1HLOlFneQhKavgBm6Bgt1PN Cancel-Lock: sha1:RSpO0OMhYNOD/6kTXTQpSFFh2mM= User-Agent: KNode/4.11.4 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:34655 Anton Ertl wrote: > rickman writes: >>On 11/25/2014 11:04 AM, Anton Ertl wrote: >>> In any case, ARM are below industry standard in their access to >>> documentation, and we should reward them for this by not supporting >>> their architecture. OTOH, the RISC-V stuff is much more along the >>> lines of the open source hardware that you propagated a few months >>> ago. I hope they win out over ARM, but that will take at least a >>> decade. >> >>I doubt very seriously if lowRISC has a chance of dethroning ARM. If >>nothing else the sheer money involved makes ARM able to produce new, >>improved designs much faster than lowRISC is likely to ever be able to do. > > That's one more reason to compete on the low end. You just have to do > a good minimal implementation once, while on the high end not only you > need to invest much more manpower, you need to do it again and again, > whenever more transistors become available. > >>BTW, how is lowRISC funded again? If it is open source there won't be a >>revenue stream, will there? > > Right, that's why Android has no funding, and iOS and Windows mobile > have higher market share than Android. Right? > > - anton Just looked up what that share is currently at:- Of course, Android has the might of Google backing it. -- ******************************************************************** Paul E. Bennett IEng MIET..... Forth based HIDECS Consultancy............. Mob: +44 (0)7811-639972 Tel: +44 (0)1235-510979 Going Forth Safely ..... EBA. www.electric-boat-association.org.uk.. ********************************************************************