Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Rubin Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: LLVM and Forth Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:17:41 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 10 Message-ID: <87tw5w6v2i.fsf@nightsong.com> References: <21153661-abf5-4958-82c7-e3c442b45cb9@googlegroups.com> <065e774c-c5fb-4e68-9489-00b5357142d6@googlegroups.com> <2017Apr3.145550@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2017Apr3.190545@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2017Apr5.170145@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <-4-dnQAyotwkJXbFnZ2dnUU7-cPNnZ2d@supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="a3cff8cb11164143d7656bbe7803b502"; logging-data="18064"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19SMLMXINODUZG/FmBee4kf" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6AnosMt90wClAtrBxIfmerKhAsY= sha1:JGcOOsdie9uPyeOpoUbw38O8lxo= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:57007 Andrew Haley writes: > The SUB would be stuff like buffer overflows ... At the edges it'd be > tricky to try to figure out which kind of UB applies. I think there have various failed attempts to do this, like "Friendly C". At the end, C is in something of an "uncanny valley" that gets both low-level and higher-level programmers confused. We'd be better of separating the two sets of requirements and not trying to address them with a one-size-fits-all solution.