Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Rubin Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Essential properties of current standard Forth Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:04:42 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <87mviv8wlh.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> References: <2016Sep15.161930@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <87oa3e9elo.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <2016Sep24.125503@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <8382eca3-ad7a-4e22-8bcd-61bd231b3995@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="2aed369a7b4699bde3e169ff4d831123"; logging-data="31765"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5dM+7C60mQqseGRTL8irX" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GYp1lpHHbqEtNI/9jpEKe2YR4Is= sha1:B8unRbQS9/DRId48Jp6BHF8oN6U= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:51297 Matthias Trute writes: > Forth became an unknown hidden language, that's a tragedy. Erlang is a > hidden language too, but a well known one, considered for new projects. Forth historically solved a problem (interactive, reasonable performance development environment on low-resource machines) that's less important now than it used to be, and most programmers these days don't want to deal with the tradeoffs Forth made to solve that problem, unless they are dealing with the same problem. The Arduino really does seem like a natural Forth target, though. It would be great if Amforth had more uptake. Do you think of encouraging vendors of Atmel boards to ship with Amforth already installed? Or maybe just flash a pile of Atmega328 parts and sell them to people? > I agree that recognizers are not that fine tuned yet. That's why I > didn't start a CfV. Recognizers seem like a good idea, even if there are issues still to work out.