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"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> writes:
> When the realization occurs that ANS hasn't, and 200x won't, deliver
> the promised world of portable programs, then a forther is free.  

What promised world of portable programs?  I've never seen a portable C
program (one with no system-dependent #ifdef's) of any size.  Even Java
("write once, debug everywhere") is less portable than some like to think.

> Free to take the best from standards and ignore the rest.

If the standard describes a workable way to do something and there's not
a substantial concrete benefit from doing something different, I don't
see good reason to depart from it.  The standard envisages a fairly
traditional approach to implementation though.  If you want to use a
very different approach (like Oforth in one direction, or Colorforth in
another) then ignoring the standard except as a distant source of
inspiration is more likely the way to go.