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From: Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org>
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Helmar Wodtke wrote:
>> > What do not you like about "ROLL" or "PICK"?
> I think these words should be used only and only if there is no other
> option.

In that case, if you really strictly mean that, they should never be
used.  ROLL and PICK can be implemented with simpler stack juggling
words and the return stack, which goes to show that there are always
other options.