Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rod Pemberton Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:32:55 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 38 Message-ID: <20170422233255.1469e9da@_> References: <20170421224554.3164118b@_> <20170421225022.43448b45@_> NNTP-Posting-Host: ZTD62cW/Uw8bymX5ok+0NA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:57881 On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 00:57:11 -0400 rickman wrote: > On 4/21/2017 10:50 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:45:54 -0400 > > Rod Pemberton wrote: > > P.S. There is no way to make U.S. public domain works legally > > compliant with legal jurisdictions, e.g., Germany, which do not > > recognize the concept of public domain (no copyright, or expired > > copyright). > > Maybe I don't understand. Are you saying in Germany copyrights don't > expire? > My understanding is that the E.U. doesn't have the concept of Public Domain. E.g., I was told that when an E.U. government creates software with taxpayer money, it is not Public Domain as for the U.S. (belonging to the people of the U.S.), but is copyrighted by their government (belongs to the State). The State may license the copyright as they see fit. I.e., once a copyright "expires" in the E.U., the copyright ownership simply transfers from the holder to the State. Ownership doesn't transfer into the Public Domain as in the U.S. Another person in the E.U. told me they couldn't work on a Public Domain project because there was no legal way for them to forfeit copyright (no copyright) under E.U. laws, as E.U. laws and treaties automatically copyright their works for the life of the author and some years. (Of course, you could Google or Wikipedia to confirm or correct.) Rod Pemberton -- All it takes for humanity to conquer the world's toughest problems is to hope, to believe, to share, and to do, in cooperation.