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From: Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
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Subject: Re: Difference between these pointer syntaxes
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes:
[...]
>> My "nutty ideas" are shared by C++ community.
>
> One of the nutty ideas in question is your use of the term array, but
> C++ has arrays with exactly the meaning you reject.
>
>   std::array<int, 10> A;
>
> defines an object will full citizenship (std::arrays can be assigned,
> passed to, and returned from functions, for example) but with no
> distinction about which elements are indeterminate.  It's a "buffer"
> in Malcom-speak.

And of course C++ has plain arrays with the same semantics that
arrays have in C.  But yes, it is telling that when C++ added what
Malcolm would call a "buffer" to the standard library, it chose
the name "array".

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Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
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