Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: =?utf-8?B?IkxldGUy77+977+9cw==?= Stop Bashing C" Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:51:16 -0800 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6b5cb11ca1c741a8bf9c5175046a39f6"; logging-data="16583"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5KmmpGSm8m2wZ4izlZ4v1" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dLXuMWDFLm1odvH1TYSUMzS2428= sha1:MDV2vUqKqkrOosmNKXKXiTut644= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:98203 Richard Heathfield writes: [...] > Well, I wouldn't actually go so far as to say "Turbo C" (after all, it > had a few bugs). But do I think that there should be few, if any, > changes to the language? Yes, I do. I have no problem with innovation > and development, but let's just call it something else, not C. The ISO C > Committee get around this by calling the new version C99, or C11, or > whatever, but the trouble with that is that there is some perception > that the older incarnations of C are thus obsolesced, and I think that's > a bad thing. The ISO C committee probably uses the term C99 and C11 informally, but the word "C11" does not appear anywhere in ISO/IEC 9899:2011 (E). And the idea that older editions are obsolete is not just perception, it's an explicit statement. Paragraph 6 of the C11 Foreword says: This third edition cancels and replaces the second edition, ISO/IEC 9899:1999, which has been technically revised. (In spite of that, I feel no particular obligation to pretend that the C90 and C99 standards no longer exist, even if I prefer to use the later edition when I can.) > If you want to innovate, yes, innovate! But while you're in a creative > mood, for pity's sake think up a new name. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc. "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this." -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"