Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: GCC vs Clang Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:48:44 -0700 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 79 Message-ID: References: <471a79ec-bb0d-4981-b16b-840b6e75ac78@googlegroups.com> <34d609fb-be36-4545-8416-586047d18a8a@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="945944de09706c9b4e29b53c9d2efdc2"; logging-data="8329"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18WqrqE2j9by0PZj1v0XQ4W" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IH+JlBkDsEmACzOw4of0oWmp7pM= sha1:76Fagj280cLkAgudkfPa+/IoMqI= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:90873 Malcolm McLean writes: > On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:18:08 PM UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote: >> Are you implying that I harassed jacob? I did not, and I resent the >> implication. If you misunderstood what I wrote, please re-read it. >> > [Jacob] >> A free C compiler for windows platforms: >> >> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32 >> >> 64 bit compiler (C99 mostly) with 128 bit integers, many extra numeric >> types like qfloats (480 bit floats) bignums, etc >> >> Fast compiler but approx 60-70% of fully optimized gcc only. >> >> Source code available at request (not free) >> Compiler binaries are free. > > [Keith] > And quoting the web page: > > This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob > Navia. It's free for **non-commercial** use, if you use it > professionally you have to have to buy a licence. > > (jacob, you might want to delete the extraneous "have to" there.) > > Jacob is promoting his compiler, and you post the catch. Yes, I did. That is not harassment. > It's not very friendly, I suppose it's not. jacob is not my friend. But there's a very large gap between "not very friendly" and harassment. **I just quoted his web page.** > and whilst Jacob is showing a bit of > salesmanship, he's not perpetrating a fraud. I never said or implied that he is. > The compiler is free > to people reading the newsgroup in a personal capacity. > Now someone wanting a compiler for commercial purposes will think > "great, here's a free offering". He'll click on the link and > explore. Then at some point he'll realise that it's not free to > him. But by this time he's looked at it, he's got interested, > he could well hand over the dollars. > > It's legitimate selling, it happens all the time, there's usually > a catch or a drawback that you don't make obvious in the initial > pitch, and if someone is following you around announcing it, you > can't make any sales. This is a C discussion group, not a forum for sales pitches. But for the record, I did not say that jacob was making a sales pitch, and I did not object to what he posted. You seem to be implying that jacob is deliberately referring to his compiler as "free", when in fact it is not entirely free. (I never said that; you did.) jacob provided information that was, as far as I know, accurate. I provided a little more information that could be of interest to the original poster. I deeply resent, on a personal level, jacob's attitude towards me, the lies he insists on telling about me, and his absurd insistence that everything I say about him, *critical or not*, is a personal attack. I honestly do not understand what he has against me (I've asked). But I have no objection to his compiler or to the way he chooses to distribute it. (Not that it matters, but I currently work on proprietary software myself.) -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc. "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this." -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"