Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!border2.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.brightview.co.uk!news.brightview.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2016 15:39:15 -0500 From: Gareth Owen Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: The truth comes out ... DNA proves evolution is a myth References: <6c40cc35-7933-4fdb-9f65-8d5db74ac551@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2016 21:39:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87pook3eh9.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WQmyTJXf6ifOp+SC4eKiUfOlQz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Lines: 41 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-iwuo/32kOlMdQAwqobIFknTi/oijStecdCPjbIPtQmBhyBNUOJJPqsLryu6pj+tcd68Me/aPULVid2e!XKbjEMJjRgHGGzAW6IlMDTjn4Phg8D61/iTX1OuJbk+nW3qqfMyPOoUqSqOH2AIe X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2631 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:93172 jacobnavia writes: > Mathematics is not a science then? I don't know many trained Mathematicians who would consider it so. Mathematics, like logic, is a key underpinning of science, but it is not itself science. The practice of doing the vast bulk of novel mathematics does not follow the scientific method. > There aren't proofs in *experimental* science, but proofs are the pure > product of maths. The term "experimental science" is a tortology. > Where are the theorems of maths? The are theorems of maths. Why should they be anything else. > Are they in 3D space, experience time and gravity? No. > Or do they exist in a pure realm, where only concepts reign? Yes. > But if math objects do not exist in the "real" world, why does maths > work so well in explaining reality? See Eugene Wigner's "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences" https://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/MathDrama/reading/Wigner.html > Truth finding in experimental science is very close to maths. Yes. But it is not maths. Nor is maths experimental science. > It is a very profound way of understanding the physical world when we > can calculate the results of experiments before we do them. Nevertheless, the predictions are science - the mathematics are not.