Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: .5 against 0.5f Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 06:54:12 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <86tsm6lym3.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <11bpvs7$1e6kc$2@dont-email.me> <11bqnvh$1np7s$1@dont-email.me> <11bqo8h$1o2l4$2@dont-email.me> <11bqsef$1pnhi$1@dont-email.me> <11bqt88$1q9r2$1@dont-email.me> <11bqvh3$1qqsr$1@dont-email.me> <11br6ug$1u3vq$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="2599665"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180ZowXkiP07pPSgAWMnPil1ycIksZtGwI="; posting-host="863330b5bd13e85d720b0575444f578b" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CfoUpQvfJkD5gxrJoPYvvm1t/MA= sha1:l3+mUEbIYOlo53TJwMMR7VlufLU= sha256:6ovvDcXhu1zBb77gXbLKJTPxXDpgKMzeeVDthIvTWH8= sha1:IllYyi0ZhOElBvmX2t9T8G3ydKs= sha256:c0q5tA89Nj6modGwtP3m2QeXVyRf8PcdHJqg/AJ9mKg= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:403711 James Kuyper writes: > On 2026-10-27 15:54, Steven G. Kargl wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2026 20:15:20 +0100, fir wrote: >>> Steven G. Kargl pisze: >>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2026 18:50:09 +0100, fir wrote: >>>>> Steven G. Kargl pisze: >>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2026 11:53:55 +0100, fir wrote: >> >> (snip) >> >>>>> but the question is: can using .1 instead of 0.1f make me any >>>>> harm in code? like things get slower in runtime? (assuming i >>>>> use floats in code not doubles, and the code is a bit time >>>>> critical like rasterisation goes on floats) why the ai so >>>>> maniacally puts that f? >>>> >>>> Without seeing code and not knowing whether you are concerned >>>> with the propagation of floating point errors, the only answer >>>> that one can give for your first two questions is "yes, no, >>>> maybe". >>>> >>>> AI is likely appending the f because you instructed AI to use a >>>> float type. Why not ask AI why it appends the f? >>> >>> it says: i add f that the number would be float type instead of >>> double >>> >>> float x=a*1.5; >>> >>> it also says in such above case the multiplication would be in >>> double then converted to float - bout for me its hard to belive > > The standard requires that "The usual arithmetic conversions are > performed on the operands." (6.5.6p4). Those conversions are > described in (6.3.2.8), and require that, in a*1.5, the value of a > must be converted to a double, and that the multiplication be > carried out using double arithmetic. However, no conversion is > required for a*1.5f, and the multiplication is carried out using > float arithmetic. [...] Maybe. IIANM the C standard allows floating operations to be carried out in greater precision than the nominal type of the expression, and thus a*1.5f might very well be carried out using, e.g., the same operations as would be used by double.