Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:54:43 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <86bloh89zg.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <87pnfxmz0i.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <874kx7n5dr.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <2e2172e1-a6e4-4488-89e9-f93036b839c0@googlegroups.com> <87v9pnktim.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <86lfqd26mc.fsf@linuxsc.com> <87h811k4yo.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <86wo9lhuel.fsf@linuxsc.com> <8211a10d-cb1e-43a6-ab50-d1293a8d5644@googlegroups.com> <86mu9ad35t.fsf@linuxsc.com> <0df23646-56a8-4430-a473-45daf5411603@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="ba68f15be103986af77012e457fe73de"; logging-data="24887"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18w5PxUrhs/4Is8Kz4w61b+YYk7rPv+hqM=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XFlhdiob/fWQ/6qrgKbRFpLiV/s= sha1:PM9Wg3/lWNhFEaDPQaR0C1oDwbA= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:150866 James Kuyper writes: > On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 10:59:04 AM UTC-5, Tim Rentsch wrote: > >> James Kuyper writes: >> >>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 7:21:46 AM UTC-5, Tim Rentsch wrote: >>> >>>> Keith Thompson writes: >>> >>> ... >>> >>>>> In a quick scan through N1570 (not including section 7), I don't see >>>>> *any* uses of the term address that are inconsistent with my >>>>> interpretation, except perhaps in uses of the phrase "address space". >>>>> Some uses could be consistent with either your interpretation or mine. >>>> >>>> What I did is bring up a copy of the Standard in Adobe Reader, >>>> and use the search feature to find all occurrences of the word >>>> "address", including as part of another word and with no case >>>> differentiation. I went through the search results, looking >>>> carefully at each usage and its surrounding context. What I saw >>>> was consistent in every case with my reading but was in some >>>> cases was not consistent with your reading. If you go through a >>>> similar procedure and look carefully at every occurrence of >>>> searching for the string "address" I suspect you will find some >>>> that don't really fit with the idea that "address" is associated >>>> with type information. >>> >>> I think it's safe to assume that Keith has already carried out a very >>> similar process, [...] >> >> That isn't the impression I got from reading what he said, > > I know - that's why I felt it important to point out the incorrectness > of your impression. > > You have a tendency to incorrectly assume that people will automatically > end up agreeing with you if they just pay closer attention to the same > text that you reached your conclusion from, and a corresponding tendency > to incorrectly assume that people who disagree with you haven't paid > close attention to it. Please don't assume you know what I'm thinking or what motivates my choices of what to write or how I write it. From your comments it is obvious that you do not.