Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Const-qualified function return type in C - is it a part of function type? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:06:41 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 66 Message-ID: <867e0bb6hq.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <45853431-d208-46e0-8945-78a42ed1a83e@googlegroups.com> <8736b2aeib.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <130f8fed-d0ed-4a1c-affb-475c707103d5@googlegroups.com> <87eeum6jup.fsf@bsb.me.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="736228d0aa4bff80edfe6f310ec1eb3b"; logging-data="18257"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18dhFuCOylCVG95NeUtI4CT/XZ0s33/qFk=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RqHfU2dgNBYiLSiFXEjsQy9p2Dw= sha1:FeoomTM3R1JlXvd4h4c5RSEwOeo= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:150213 Ben Bacarisse writes: > luser droog writes: > >> On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:22:18 AM UTC-6, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> >>> Andrey Tarasevich writes: >>> >>> >>>> To avoid any further wastage of time on this irrelevant matter I >>>> hereby postulate one more time: the above quoted passage refers to >>>> qualifiers applied to the function type itself (which, BTW, is only >>>> possible through typedef names). >>> >>> And interesting detail, which I can't interpret... In all versions of >>> the C standard, there is a footnote attached to the paragraph >>> >>> "If the specification of an array type includes any type qualifiers, >>> the element type is so qualified, not the array type. If the >>> specification of a function type includes any type qualifiers, the >>> behavior is undefined." >>> >>> In C90, this footnote seems to be: >>> >>> 59) Both of these can only occur through the use of typedefs. >>> >>> By C99 it appears to have become >>> >>> 118) Both of these can occur through the use of typedefs. >>> >>> Why the change I wonder? Is there a way to qualify a function or array >>> type without a typedef? I can't see one. >> >> What about using parens? > > I don't think you can. I tried. I concur with Ben here. >> int (const sammy[2]); > > I think int (const sammy)[2]; would be closer (were it allowed) because > parentheses in a declarator are there to stop you reading in the > "default" direction -- to the right. Reading what you wrote, you'd say > "sammy is an array of 2 const int". > >> float (volatile davis)(void); > > That's the way it would be written, but you can't do that as far as I > can see. If we are looking for an extension to supply the capability, how about this way: int sammy const [2]; float davis volatile (void); I note with some amusement that C++ made a different choice, for member functions: int x_value() const; Of course the meaning of "const" here isn't quite the same as the "const" we are used to, but it does modify the function type itself: they are commonly (or officially?) called "const member functions".