Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Constants and undefined behavior Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:58:11 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <8633wf5t30.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <10v7b32$2u85v$1@dont-email.me> <86tsrc8d0b.fsf@linuxsc.com> <1108pb9$omm$1@reader1.panix.com> <86ldcm82ql.fsf@linuxsc.com> <110cpca$gl2$1@reader1.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2026 14:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3635087"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19okSTvha1CvamyYzQIIBbrPcZgkClgr6A="; posting-host="f88cfb7384c39afe54609bf3101f3803" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9j6ssL/RKgwUqNsu8SFLq+y1wlA= sha1:JKbb7v4+3UR3EAOYOWX7o1nCEXk= sha256:lrSvS/DtCUh3iSNTQLg7v7vvHJRi4Ghz/GfvSkvsbvE= sha1:iyF68mEMR3XIAjFKj5eZ9kMBWN0= sha256:vhcLzHgNSxHebIrwOKCU27dTfPp+PwCvZnponzX/g70= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:401211 cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes: > In article <86ldcm82ql.fsf@linuxsc.com>, > Tim Rentsch wrote: > >> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes: >> >>> In article <86tsrc8d0b.fsf@linuxsc.com>, >>> Tim Rentsch wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>> The C standard doesn't need to say that, for example, a >>>> function x() other than main(), whose name is never referenced, >>>> will never be called. If someone wants to establish that x() could >>>> be called, there needs to be a chain of reasoning going through the >>>> semantic descriptions given in the C standard, to show that a call >>>> to x() could occur. >>> >>> Actually, no, a reference to a function is not necessary. A >>> couple of years ago, a well-publicized issue in a C++ compiler a >>> couple of years ago was something along the lines of this: >>> [...] >> >> This is comp.lang.c. My comments were only about C, and not >> about C++. But of course you already knew that. > > I see you did not read the other messages in the (sub)thread, > but ok, here it is again, in C: > > ``` > term% cat what.c > #include > int main(void) { for (unsigned int k = 0; k != 1; k += 2); return 0; } > void hello(void) { printf("Hello, World!\n"); } > term% clang --version | sed 1q > clang version 22.1.6 > term% clang -Wall -pedantic -pedantic-errors -O1 -std=c23 -o what what.c > what.c:2:58: warning: for loop has empty body [-Wempty-body] > 2 | int main(void) { for (unsigned int k = 0; k != 1; k += 2); return 0; } > | ^ > what.c:2:58: note: put the semicolon on a separate line to silence [...] > 1 warning generated. > term% ./what > Hello, World! > term% > ``` This is a childish argument.