Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Microcontroller software stacks (was Re: this girl calls c ugly) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 13:23:11 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <861pc078pc.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <10v7b32$2u85v$1@dont-email.me> <10vmh2e$b44$1@reader1.panix.com> <86h5mv8umk.fsf@linuxsc.com> <111b3ni$s5m$1@reader1.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="2956047"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18b4RSLaH9H8DAnjhwql6uUnj1KaYZXEyw="; posting-host="34d543ba31754db8d869ebd4dc5daf69" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mMvTysMMXUowy8r84Bd735aq4rY= sha1:7wGy7wgKiO9kckRNme7hpq1TPBc= sha256:o9cU6xenV+jLff1fjpSSGLd9USLaIk69d8t89QbFjNM= sha1:NZ/XiU+0g1oU/NqnkycH7J3jtbc= sha256:TGeNnE1Vd3kZRPRMfjrhU4gnq7ItAT3xA4hsGeyyN30= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:401177 cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes: > In article <86h5mv8umk.fsf@linuxsc.com>, > Tim Rentsch wrote: > >> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: >> >>> One might also define data structures for control and status >>> registers using bitfield structs. >> >> Yeah. This kind of application (among others) I consider one of >> the motivating forces behind bitfields. >> >> [Some whitespace trimming done in the excerpt below.] >> >>> e.g. for the SATA UAHC_GLB_OOBR register: >>> >>> union UAHC_GBL_OOBR { >>> uint32_t u; >>> struct UAHC_GBL_OOBR_s { >>> #if __BYTE_ORDER == __BIG_ENDIAN >>> uint32_t we : 1; /**< R/W/H - Write enable. */ >>> uint32_t cwmin : 7; /**< R/W/H - COMWAKE minimum value [...] */ >>> uint32_t cwmax : 8; /**< R/W/H - COMWAKE maximum value [...] */ >>> uint32_t cimin : 8; /**< R/W/H - COMINIT minimum value [...] */ >>> uint32_t cimax : 8; /**< R/W/H - COMINIT maximum value [...] */ >>> #else >>> uint32_t cimax : 8; >>> uint32_t cimin : 8; >>> uint32_t cwmax : 8; >>> uint32_t cwmin : 7; >>> uint32_t we : 1; >>> #endif >>> } s; >>> }; >> >> To me it seems kind of goofy to use uint32_t for the bitfields type. >> I would just use unsigned, which is just as sure to work as intended, >> isn't it? > > No. There are issues of alignment and padding one must consider > when using bitfields to model hardware registers, particularly > if (say) a device driver is meant to be shared across ISAs. > > Using the exact width types really does make a difference; it's > IB what those properties are, though we're usually at the mercy > of the target platform's ABI anyway at that point. The motivation for my query was not to ask an abstract theoretical question but a specific and pragmatic one.