Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Walter Banks Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:50:49 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 40 Message-ID: <4F2FF6D9.AC9D99DD@bytecraft.com> References: <4F2AF093.1000108@verizon.net> <32ea44ee2154f0794941c9d72f0fcff6@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 7RNUrPiYz+zlDaszecqZ0g.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD479 (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.c:16751 Noob wrote: > > The main problems with "copy-right" are 1) its excessive length > and 2) the legal arsenal "rights holders" have obtained in the > past 20 years. 1) (excessive length) The length of copyright is an artifact of software industry losing the effectiveness of patent protection. The length of patent protection is about right for software protection to make most development economically viable. Copyright turned out to be the only protection with enough teeth to protect software. 2 (legal arsenal) The first time you wake up one morning to discover that you have paid the development costs for a handful of competing companies, starts with an upset stomach over breakfast a three martini lunch and tears in your beer that night. Right after the aspirin in the morning for the hangover the calls to legal start with, "Do something now!!!" When you are the victim or the preconceived victim it gets personal just thinking about all the mid-night to morning sessions that you will never be paid for. Independent of industry IP violation is a personal emotional response in creative people. All I have talked to expressed the view that it is like arriving home to find a burglar has has been there in your absence. Personally I would liked to have seen a respected software protection scheme closer to a patent and similar in implementation to a registered copyright. Something like 10-15 years duration, specific claims but costing closer to trademark costs. There is little or no chance that this could happen now. Regards Walter Banks Byte Craft Limited