Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.spitfire.i.gajendra.net!not-for-mail From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.c++,alt.comp.lang.rust,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=9CThe_end_of_software_secrecy_is_almost_upon?= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2026 16:41:22 -0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Message-ID: <11bin3i$ma9$1@reader2.panix.com> References: <11amvre$15far$1@dont-email.me> <11bf4d1$skul$1@dont-email.me> <11bgh17$1s8$1@reader2.panix.com> <11bhppd$2lpkc$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2026 16:41:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader2.panix.com; posting-host="spitfire.i.gajendra.net:166.84.136.80"; logging-data="22857"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:661440 comp.lang.fortran:126945 comp.lang.c++:125300 alt.comp.lang.rust:396 alt.folklore.computers:236004 In article <11bhppd$2lpkc$1@dont-email.me>, wrote: >On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 20:45:27 -0000 (UTC) >cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) gabbled: >>In article <11bf4d1$skul$1@dont-email.me>, wrote: >>>On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 16:22:30 -0000 (UTC) >>>cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) gabbled: >>>>In article <11bd7rg$2cvfs$1@dont-email.me>, wrote: >> >>>>>You need an OS to do threading properly too. Theres a reason green threads >>>>>in java were a joke. >>>> >>>>Weird that you think you need a operating system for threads, >>>>yet you want C to standardize processes which also ... need an >>>>operating system. I mean, POSIX already does an ok job of >>>>standardizing the sorts of process-y things you would expect >>>>from, you know, an operating system. >>> >>>I'm simply pointing out the inconsistency in having a threading library but >>>not a process library. Its perfectly possible to simulate a multiprocess >>>enviroment. >> >>So write a simulator in your language of choice. You don't need >>the language to standardize a process model for that. > >Ditto threads. So why does C++ have a threading library? > >Take your time... What, pray tell, do you think that a _thread_ is? And how is it different from a _process_? For that matter, what do you think that a _process_ is? Please, take all the time you need to answer. - Dan C.