Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.spitfire.i.gajendra.net!not-for-mail From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.c++,alt.comp.lang.rust,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=9CThe_end_of_software_secrecy_is_almost_upon?= Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 20:45:27 -0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Message-ID: <11bgh17$1s8$1@reader2.panix.com> References: <11amvre$15far$1@dont-email.me> <11bd7rg$2cvfs$1@dont-email.me> <11bdd86$kvg$1@reader2.panix.com> <11bf4d1$skul$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 20:45:27 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader2.panix.com; posting-host="spitfire.i.gajendra.net:166.84.136.80"; logging-data="1928"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:661405 comp.lang.fortran:126903 comp.lang.c++:125257 alt.comp.lang.rust:355 alt.folklore.computers:235963 In article <11bf4d1$skul$1@dont-email.me>, wrote: >On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 16:22:30 -0000 (UTC) >cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) gabbled: >>In article <11bd7rg$2cvfs$1@dont-email.me>, wrote: >>>You need an OS to do threading properly too. Theres a reason green threads >>>in java were a joke. >> >>Weird that you think you need a operating system for threads, >>yet you want C to standardize processes which also ... need an >>operating system. I mean, POSIX already does an ok job of >>standardizing the sorts of process-y things you would expect >>from, you know, an operating system. > >I'm simply pointing out the inconsistency in having a threading library but >not a process library. Its perfectly possible to simulate a multiprocess >enviroment. So write a simulator in your language of choice. You don't need the language to standardize a process model for that. >How do you think pure software versions of virtual machines work? By trapping and emulating accesses to privileged state, taking care to ensure that the environment that the guest sees faithfully emulates its expectations. You think that's something a programming _language_ like _C_ of all things should standardize? Why? - Dan C.