Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!news.glorb.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe16.iad.POSTED!aa923de6!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.compression From: stan Subject: Re: disclosure versus proof References: <781e6c18-1195-4c02-b6ff-abe283d3d5fb@u32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <03142735-2f89-459b-8e42-a6c4eb82798b@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <3098242a-f313-4ce0-ab61-34c7ca2f461f@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Linux) Message-ID: <635it8-6n5.ln1@invalid.net> Lines: 34 X-Complaints-To: abuse@teranews.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:10:07 UTC Organization: TeraNews.com Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 22:06:46 -0500 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.compression:718 jules Gilbert wrote: > On Jan 3, 2:19 pm, stan wrote: >> Jim Leonard wrote: >> > On Jan 2, 4:37 pm, jules Gilbert wrote: >> >> People say they want proof, really they want disclosure. >> >> > It is possible to provide proof without disclosing the exact method: >> >> >> >> Haven't we been here before? I did watch the twilight zone marathon >> over the new year, nevertheless I think we've done this before. >> >> Sisyphus > > Don't worry Sisyphus, the idea that I can distribute a decompressor > and associated compressed files and not have it reverse engineered is > one of the most foolish assertions I have read; Some have suggested > that plan to me, I hope their motivations were innocent. As noted, I'm sure I've heard this before. You don't think verification is possible without disclosure, and you've stated so repeatedly. So if I have it straight, you are clever enough to come up with a technique that nobody has ever seen and apparently even defies known established science yet you aren't clever enough to come up with a technique to provide verification without disclosure. With your fear of disclosure why even continue to talk about what you are working on? Aren't you afraid of terribly clever hackers targeting you and your incredibly valuable technique? Sisyphus, again